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[sticky post] Discussing Thick as Thieves (Spoilers)

May. 23rd, 2017 | 08:20 pm
posted by: ninedaysaqueen in sounis

So, Checkers and I felt we were getting a tad disorganized with our discussions of TaT and overwhelming ourselves, so here's a little order in the chaos. Below are all current Sounis spoiler-y threads for discussing TaT. I will add new ones as we go along. Feel free to start your own thread. Just remember to hide spoilers under an LJ-cut with a clear warning.

This thread will remain "sticky" (at the top) for a few weeks or so, giving everyone a chance to read the book and comment.


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Hamiathes' Gift Exchange - Nominations Questions

Jun. 19th, 2017 | 11:11 pm
posted by: pendrecarc in sounis

Hello, all! Nominations will stay open until June 24th at 10 PM EDT.

I have questions on a few nominations [ETA 2 and 3]:

  1. Relationship: Eugenides the Elder & Eugenides: by Eugenides the Elder, do you mean Gen's grandfather, the previous Queen's Thief?

  2. Relationship: Attolis & Sounis: By Sounis, do you mean Sophos or his uncle? Do you mind if I change Attolis to Eugenides for consistency with the rest of the tag set?

  3. Relationship: Eddis/Sounis: As above, by Sounis, do you mean Sophos or his uncle?

If you want to see what others have nominated, you can click here. If you want to nominate characters or relationships yourself, you can click here. You'll need an AO3 account to do so (and to sign up for the exchange). If you don't have one, there's a waiting period, but it usually only takes a few days.

Links of interest:

Exchange on AO3 | Announcements at Tumblr | Exchange on DW

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Jun. 19th, 2017 | 11:59 am
posted by: more_ruthless in sounis


where does TaT come in on the timeline of QoA/KoA/CoK?


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Meet Up in Chicago?

Jun. 18th, 2017 | 11:22 pm
posted by: checkers65477 in sounis

This is from Megan Whalen Turner's tumblr page:

"I'll be in Chicago this weekend for ALA! Anybody up for a mini Thief!Con?"

C'mon, Chicagoites (Chicagoans? idk.)! Who's going?

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Thick as Thieves : How Kamet and Attolia Irene are Practically the Same Person

Jun. 18th, 2017 | 03:38 pm
posted by: 11rod88staff11 in sounis

Thick As Thieves may be Kamet the slave’s story, but it’s HER, the queen’s story too. Told by him. Felt by both.

I am currently in my second re-read of Thick As Thieves. (The first time, I read it on my phone Kindle app while I was waiting the thousand years for delivery of my physical book to my doorstep overseas.) So now the highlighter and the markers and the pens get no rest as I underline and circle and proceed to personalize/trash the margins with my musings.

I observe with mounting frequency and intensity that pretty much anything we can say about Kamet, we can say about Irene. And my heart breaks again for them both. If you’re anything like me, you approached Thick As Thieves starving for more about Irene and how her healing and character development are going and were initially disappointed that only 4 out of 337 pages actually physically have Irene on them.... until you realize how parallel Kamet and Irene run and ACTUALLY Irene is on ALL 337 pages without actually physically ever being mentioned. Kind of how god/goddess is all around us, omniscient, omnipotent, whether we know it or not. Kind of how Eugenides also is, in his Universe. And also in our heart and minds, he’s there, even though we don’t see or hear him.

I made a list of some of the ways Irene = Kamet, Kamet = Irene:

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Meeting other QT fans....

Jun. 17th, 2017 | 08:34 pm
posted by: readsintrees in sounis

Have you ever met other QT fans in real life, without knowing them first through the group?

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OT - Apologies to Italo Calvino

Jun. 15th, 2017 | 08:08 pm
posted by: eachase in sounis

"So, then, you noticed in a newspaper that Thick as Thieves had appeared, the new book by Megan Whalen Turner, who hadn't published for several years. You went to the bookshop and bought the volume. Good for you."


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Hamiathes' Gift Exchange - 2017 Nominations

Jun. 14th, 2017 | 10:08 pm
posted by: pendrecarc in sounis

Nominations for the 2017 Hamiathes' Gift Exchange are open! They will close on June 24th at 10 PM EDT.

There are some slight differences in nominations this year--mostly, you'll be allowed to nominate both characters and relationships. I have also included Worldbuilding (Any Character) as a tag for those who want to request a stories about the mythology, history, cultures, etc. of The Queen's Thief without specifying individual characters. No need to nominate worldbuilding--it's already there.

As always, feel free to get in touch if you have questions, and please share a link with on your journal/Tumblr/other platform of choice!

The tag set is here.

Links of interest:

Exchange on AO3 | Announcements at Tumblr | Exchange on DW


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Audiobook thoughts?

Jun. 14th, 2017 | 01:50 pm
posted by: readsintrees in sounis

Has anyone else listened to the audiobooks narrated by Steve West yet? I'm working my way through them now. (Goodreads is like, "Are you sure you're reading the same books one month apart?" Yes, Goody, yes I am.) I'm currently near the end of KoA...

My thoughts so far:

1. The books themselves are better enjoyed on paper. Some books are enhanced by an audiobook performance, but I don't think these are in that category.

2. Steve West, like most male narrators, makes the female characters sound whiney/whispy and annoying. Attolia, to me, sounds almost like Stewie from "Family Guy". Even though most of the characters are male, I wish the narrator was female....perhaps my favorite, Katherine Kellgren.

3. The narrator's interpretation of many of the male voices bothered me a bit too. Gen doesn't sound like Gen, and many of the characters sound just like the other characters. I'm not confident that I'd have been able to thoroughly understand/enjoy the story if I didn't already know it so well.

4. Page breaks, particularly in QoA, are lost because the narrator doesn't pause for a page break. He just reads straight on through, which makes changes in POV kind of confusing. Also, there are certain moments/sentences that are made all the more profound by those page breaks, which again get a bit lost in the audiobook narration. However, this might be something that those of us who've read these over and over might notice.

5. One of the GOOD things about listening to the audio of a book you're already familiar with is that the narrator may give sentences different inflections than you gave them during your own reads, and in doing so it makes you think about these sentences differently. I know there are a couple of parts that I probably read over quickly because I was eager to get back to the story, and the audio narration forces you to slow down and hear every word.

6. With this book, as with all audiobooks, I find myself reacting out loud. When reading on paper, most of my reactions are in my own head, with only the occasional gasp, chuckle, or smile if something is REALLY astonishing. On audio, even though I know these stories inside and out, I find myself grinning, cheering, booing, and generally making a lot more noise while listening. Fun times!

So...overall, I'll be glad I listened to the audiobooks, but I'm not sure if I'm likely to re-listen to them. I don't want Stewie-Attolia to get ingrained into my psyche so that my vision of Attolia is forever tainted. The narrator doesn't do a BAD job, but I think the downsides of his narration outweigh the positives.

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Another MWT Interview

Jun. 12th, 2017 | 09:47 pm
music: rag and bone man - human
posted by: checkers65477 in sounis

Here's another great interview with Megan, where she talks about writing "twists" into books, fantasy world-building, and about Gen as a character.

Favorite parts:
"The Thief is about 21 years old now, so it's just about old enough to buy a drink."
Calling her books "Fellowship of the Hamiathes Gift."

Oh, and it's official, Gen is a jerk. She's called him that at least twice now, so there you go.

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